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Written by Student Rights on 12 May 2010 at 4pm

'Gather the Jews in Israel, so they're easier to hunt down.' For it, or against it?

EDIT 16/12/2013: Thanks to eagle-eyed readers for noticing a live link to Pamela Geller's website placed over three years ago and for drawing it to our attention. We have of course removed this, and would like to take the opportunity presented to state that we categorically oppose Ms Geller's blanket hostility to Islam and regard her extremist approach as unacceptable.

There's a video that's being circulated around the United States and I think it's worthwhile that it gets seen in this country.  What's happening at university campuses over there is very similar to the issues we face in terms of radicalisation and extremism.  The video shows us precisely what runs through the mind of a Muslim Students Association (MSA-US) member at the University of California San Diego.

No matter what your opinion of the speaker, David Horowitz is - it should be glaringly obvious that the girl's response to his question in this clip is a call to genocide, plainly and simply.  She states that she fears being arrested by Homeland Security for supporting Hamas (as any glorification of terror is illegal) and flippantly dismisses Horowitz's referral to Israel Apartheid Week as 'Hitler Youth Week'. This may seem divisive from him at first, but when you see her answer to his last question; it's more than a justified definition of what extremists are promoting on campuses. Furthermore, while she asks about the accusation of links between the MSA and 'jihad terrorist networks' - she answers her own question with her response to the title of this blog post. 

Watch and see the full transcript below.

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TRANSCRIBED

MSA member: Good evening, I just wanted to say thank you for coming to campus tonight and presenting your point of view, its always important to have to sets of, ah, views going on at the same time. Um, very useful.  My name is [Jimena Imad Musa Ahmal Bahiri](sp) and I’m a student here at UCSD. Ah I was reading your literature, I found that much more interesting than your talk, and I found some interesting things about the MSA, which is an organization that is very active on campus and is hosting our annual “Hitler Youth” week, you should come out to those events. [DS: Horowitz had referred to the MSA's week as a Hitler Youth week.]  Um, if you could clarify the connection between the MSA and Jihad terrorist networks, because last time I checked, we had to do our own fundraising, and we never get help from anyone.  So if you could clarify the connection between UCSD’s MSA or if you don’t have such information, if you could connect other MSA’s on UC’s, because the connection wasn’t to clear in the pamphlet, just if you could clarify.

Horowitz: Okay.  Will you condemn Hamas, here and now?

MSA member: I’m sorry, what?

Horowitz: Will you condemn Hamas?

MSA member: Would I condemn Hamas?

Horowitz: As a terrorist organization.  Genocidal organization.

MSA member: Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?

Horowitz: So you won’t.  I have actually had this experience many times.  You didn’t actually read the pamphlet, because the pamphlet is chapter and verse. The main connection is that the MSA is part of the Muslim Brotherhood Network as revealed…

MSA member: I don’t think you understood what I meant by that.  I meant if I say something, I am sure that I will be arrested, for reasons of homeland security.  So if you could please just answer my question.

Horowitz: If you condemn Hamas, Homeland Security will arrest you?

MSA member: If I support Hamas, because your question forces me to condemn Hamas.  If I support Hamas, I look really bad.

Horowitz: If you don’t condemn Hamas, obviously you support it.  Case closed.  I have had this experience at UC Santa Barbara, where there were 50 members of the Muslim Students Association sitting right in the rows there.  And throughout my hour talk I kept asking them, will you condemn Hizbollah and Hamas. And none of them would.  And then when the question period came, the president of the Muslim Students Association was the first person to ask a question. And I said, ‘Before you start, will you condemn Hizbollah?’ And he said, ‘Well, that question is too complicated for a yes or no answer.’  So I said, ‘Okay, I’ll put it to you this way.  I am a Jew.  The head of Hizbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in Israel so he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally.  For or Against it?

MSA member: For it.

Horowitz: Thank you for coming and showing everybody what’s here.